This was, in my mind, the point at which the original rather odd concept and culture of Autodesk ended, and the transition toward building a professionally managed business began. Even though we never actually obtained venture capital (we rejected an offer of funding in May 1984 as too little money to justify the constraints on our freedom of action-see page [Ref]), Autodesk rapidly began to put its business house in order. Claims that, years later, Autodesk was a “cabal of hackers” or some such are nonsense rooted in ignorance.